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SaveCarlsbad's March 2020


Effective Immediately, please visit the C4FA website for the latest information on the legal actions between:

  • C4FA and The City of Carlsbad/County of San Diego

  • County of San Diego C4FA (Ruling - County has to redo its Master Plan)

McClellan-Palomar Airport and The City of Carlsbad's Breaking News

CCC June 11 2011 Meeting


To see the entire meeting, click here and select the June 11, 2019 meeting.  The airport discussion is #18 on the agenda.

Mr. Haber's "Background" presentation highlighted the points in the County's own PowerPoint presentation, but it is/was lacking in important facts.  For instance:

  1. Once the D-III runway work is completed, McClellan-Palomar Airport will meet the requirement for the airport to be reclassified as a modified D-III airport.  This fact will allow larger and larger commercial jets to use Palomar.

  2. To extend the runway will required 200 to 300 or more pylons be driven though the polluted landfill and the aquifer below.  

  3. In the 5,600 PLUS pages of the County's Master Plan and PEIR you will find, "... While the Airport Master Plan serves as a useful tool for planning and project funding purposes during a 20-year period, implementation of individual projects is dependent on available funding and current priorities...." Today the funding is available, not only to move and lengthen the runway, but also to completely revamp Palomar into a mini-John Wayne airport.

  4. The new 2018 FAA approved budget includes - $3.81 Billion for airport improvements.  It is projected to completely revamp Palomar would cost around $400 to $500 million.

Consequently, while Mr. Haber's presentation is factual, it is missing the reality the county is aware of and has not yet fully published.



Today the FAA is preparing for the doubling of the air traffic by 2035.  To put that more plainly, the FAA needs a lot more concrete on the ground and a lot more airports to handle the projected increase in air traffic.​ 

BOTTOM LINE - Carlsbad's staff and politicians are not cognizant in the reality the County is planning for when it comes to Palomar.  AND to put it more clearly, Carlsbad officials and staff are talking about TODAY's Palomar, BUT the County's New 20 Year Master Plan is strictly about TOMORROW's Palomar (mini-John Wayne) Airport.

To find out the real truth, click here to see and listen to the comments made by three Supervisors in the October 10, 2018 San Diego County Board of Supervisors meeting.

That said, Mayor Hall continually has voted to support the D-III option.  WHY?????  Mayor Hall's, like ALL the Council members, first fiduciary responsibility is to protect the health, safety and quality of life of Carlsbad residents! 



As the vote shows, Mayor Hall along with Council Member Blackburn voted to support the D-III airport option for Palomar.

But, Council Member Blackburn voted as he did with reservations.  However, Mayor Hall DID NOT express any reservations.

That said, Mayor Hall seemingly has consistently been supporting the expansion of Palomar Airport since before he became Mayor in 2010.

As the vote shows, Mayor Hall voted to support the D-III airport option for Palomar.

But, Council Member Blackburn voted as he did with reservations.  However, Mayor Hall DID NOT express any reservations.

Again, that said, Mayor Hall seemingly has consistently been supporting the expansion of Palomar Airport since before he became Mayor in 2010.


Click the below video to see Carlsbad and its surrounding communities future if McClellan-Palomar Airport is allowed to expand into a D-III airportAnd just like today, our protest will fall on county airport management and PAAC deaf ears.  

On October 10, 2018, the San Diego Board of Supervisors voted to approve Palomar's expansion to a D-III airport and on May 7, 2019, Carlsbad City Council approved a nonbinding "Settlement Agreement" with the county, including surrendering ALL policing (Zoning) authority within and outside of the airport to the county.

Join the fight and go to to see how you can help.


Click on the opposite video to see how our lives will change if McClellan-Palomar Airport EXPANDS.

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~ Read the fact below -  It's all about TOMORROW's airport, it's NOT about TODAY's airport. ~ 

It's ALL about you, your children and your children's children health and quality of life future.

2nd Lawsuit

June 4, 2019 - C4FA files 2nd lawsuit. This time against both the City of Carlsbad and San Diego County.
Click here to read the details.
May 7, 2019 - Carlsbad City Council, one more time, voted 4 to 1 to approve the airport "Settlement Agreement".  To see the highlights click here.  To see the entire meeting, click here and select the May 7, 2019 meeting.  The airport discussion is #6 on the agenda.

Now the "Settlement" has officially been resigned and after continued requests from Carlsbad residents to openly discuss what will have such an destructive impact on Carlsbad residents ------------- it now has been 83 Days and the City Council has yet to call an "Open Public Meeting" to discuss why the council signed this hasty and seemingly lopsided settlement.  NOTE: after 83 days, on June 19th it is obvious Carlsbad airport supporting officials are not interested in an "Open Public Meeting"; so we stopped updating the number of days.

To view the "Settlement Agreement" and see what Carlsbad City Council thought was a good agreement for our community's health, quality of life and welfare - click the below link:

May 3. 2019 - Carlsbad City Council has decided it needs to revote on the airport "Settlement Agreement" with the County.  To that end, it has scheduled a "do over" vote for the next City Council Meeting (May 7th.)  All the information can be found by clicking on this Carlsbad City website link.

November 29, 2018 - To protect Carlsbad and its surrounding communities citizens -
c4fa filed a lawsuit against the County of San Diego (County) to stop the expansion of CRQ.
                          Click above to read the press release
March 27, 2019 -  Carlsbad City Council met in a 3 1/2 hour closed door session and then hastily called a public City Council Meeting.  In that public meeting it voted 4-1 to pass a McClellan-Palomar Airport (CRQ) Settlement Agreement with the County of San Diego and drop its December California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) environmental lawsuit against the County.
In that settlement, Carlsbad seemingly threw its residents and Carlsbad's surrounding communities residents under the bus.  Why seemingly?
Other than the County committing to meet with city staff, the County reserves the right to make any and ALL final decisions on what happens at the airport.  Additionally, unlike the prior Carlsbad Conditional Use Permit (CUP) 172, the County now retains ALL zoning rights on the airport, including the right to purchase additional property that can lead to an expansion of the airport.  After we thoroughly digest the settlement agreement, there will be MORE to follow.

c4fa 1st Lawsuit

Past reality with communities and the FAA and NextGen

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All over the country, the FAA new NextGEN system has increased airport noise and pollution issues.  Think CRQ aircraft noise and pollution are issues now, just wait.  The FAA new NextGEN system is coming to CRQ in 2017.

Local or Related CRQ News Releases

PAAC 5:50 AM

Jan 28, 2017 - The FAA and the City of Santa Monica agreed to permanently close the Santa Monica Airport on Dec.31, 2028 and replace it with a park.  Additionally, the airport will immediately shorten the operational length of the runway to 3,500 feet.  By doing so, most jet and commercial traffic will not be able to use the airport.

Nov. 26, 2016 - Orange County sues to block flight path changes at John Wayne Airport.  That's right, Orange County the owner of John Wayne Airport.  Orange County joins Newport Beach and other cities claiming the new FAA flight paths changes could inundate surrounding communities with aircraft noise. 

May 16, 2016 -  9th Circuit Court of Appeals decides in favor of Santa Monica and remands case to U.S. District Court for trial.

September 15, 2015Sens. McCain, Flake urge FAA to address Phoenix flight path changes


August 16, 2015 - East Cost - FAA NexGEN/ERAM upgrade grounds

                                 hundreds of of flights. 


July 29,2015 - Palo Alto, CA  -  FAA knows something has changed


June 22, 2015 - Petition urging FAA to stop jet noise in Santa Cruz


June 1, 2015 - Phoenix sues FAA Over NextGEN Flight Path Noise


May 7, 2015 - Queens' NY calls for EPA control over noise


April 30, 2015 - Phoenix nearing the end of its patience


April 17, 2015 - Sue the FAA, Sue the FAA, Sue the FAA


April 17, 2015 - Hamptons town limits aircraft noise


April 15, 2015 - Phoenix legal challenge brewing over FAA

                            flight paths


March 30, 2015 - Santa Cruz Officials gear up to address

                                airplane noise


March 24, 2015 - Phoenix Neighborhoods disrupted by

                                new flight-path noise


March 11, 2015 - FAA says Phoenix Sky Harbor flight

                                paths cannot be reverted


February 21, 2015 - Queens residents keep pressure on

                                      officials over airplane noise


July 25, 2016, Environmental Protection Agency to propose greenhouse gas standards for aircraft after the agency concluded those emissions endanger human health and the environment.

November 10, 2015, Vista City Council agenda item D8 - Because of numerous aircraft noise complaints from Vista citizens, Councilwoman Rigby proposed that the City Council send a letter to the Federal Aviation Administration and the San Diego Board of Supervisors requesting the FAA and McClellan-Palomar Airport revert back to the pre 2012 flight paths when Vista residents were never bothered by the aircraft noise.  A number of residents spoke that since 2012, the aircraft the noise and jet exhaust pollution/soot, is destroying their quality of life.  One citizen stated even though the airport has a voluntary noise abetment program, the aircraft operators mostly ignore it and she is constantly woken in the middle of the night by the sound of jets landing.


The Council past item D8 unanimously and will formally vote on the discussion item in the December meeting when the wording of letter will be finalized.


October 22, 2015, the Palomar Airport Advisory Committee (PAAC) unanimously approved a motion to send the San Diego Airport Authority's (SDAA) recommended motion to expand the airports runway and send it to the San Diego Board of Supervisors for approval in their December 2015 meeting.  Click for details


September 17, 2015 - This is also Carsbad's future - Point Lomans unhappy about FAA’s proposed flight paths


September 8, 2015 - FAA extends the Metroplex comment period for 30 more days.  October 8, 2015 is the new close of the comment period. Click on July 5, 2015, link below for the latest information.  


July 5, 2015 - FAA extends Metroplex public comment period to September, 8, 2015.  Online information is available at click here


June 22, 2015 - FAA Metroplex Flight Path Workshop

According to the FAA, this workshop was NOT related to NextGEN.

The workshop is only to explain tweaks to present flight paths to improve safety.


June 10, 2015 - The EPA acted to protect the health and welfare

                            of the American public. 


May 31, 2015 - Lindbergh Field is closing the commuter terminal

Effective June 4, 2015, because the airlines are moving to larger and larger regional jets, San Digo County is closing the commuter terminal at Lindbergh Field.


May 8, 2015 - FAA to study noise and health related issues


April 30, 2015 - CRQ's #3 Public Workshop Held.  What was presented, confirmed all the speculation about CRQ's future and the devastating impact it will have on the communities around the airport.


April 30, 2015 - On Wednesday, Gov. Jerry Brown called on the state to further slash its carbon footprint over the next 15 years and set the new targets to be 40% below 1990 levels by 2030 and 80% below 1990 levels by 2050.


If the airport runway is extended and CRQ becomes a major regional airport, how is Carlsbad going to do to meet its AB32 commitment?


April 16, 2015 - PAAC Meeting.  Tonight, PAAC and San Diego County reiterated VNAP is ONLY VOLUNTARY and supported the Biz Air Shuttle jet's 6:00 AM schedule.  In fact, PAAC presented a motion to revise the schedule and have first departure moved to 5:50 AM.


April 15, 2015 - Biz Air Shuttle flying from CRQ to LAX.  The first 30 passenger jet flight is scheduled to depart on May 7th at 6:00 AM and will continue on Monday through Friday.  So much for CRQ's Voluntary Noise Abatement Procedures (VNAP) "Quiet Hours" for jets (2200 to 0700).  Sign of more changes to come.


April 6, 2015 - Today United ended service from CRQ to LAX


April  2, 2015 - Can Town Win Airport Noise Fight?


January 6, 2015 - Horn named county chair again

                                Expresses support for CRQ expansion


January 4, 2015 - COMMENTARY: Counterpoint: Expanding

                                 Carlsbad airport threatens our peaceful,

                                 easy feeling


November 18, 2014 - FedEx distribution 300,000 sq. ft. center

                                        coming to Oceanside

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